This is Out Of The Pit, the Fighting Fantasy monster manual:
It was first published in 1985, and contained the statistics and information on every monster that had appeared in any (non science fiction) Fighting Fantasy book at that time. I loved this book when it came out, and read it avidly cover to cover many times. I would stage mock battles between monsters, in an effort to see who was most powerful.
Back then I had the deluxe large format edition with colour pictures. Alas I no longer have this treasure, but I have two later printings, and still find the book a wonderful and nostalgic read.
Over the weekend I wrote this piece of code:
What does it do? Well, it fights 271 of the monsters in Out Of The Pit against each other and saves results. Monster data is input via a data file, which I typed up myself (it took about 2 hours). The code uses the full rules systems including special attacks (examine the code; you can see a large amount of special attacks, defenses and other conditions are included) and saves win-loss results per creature. Every monster fights every other monster once. I ran the code three times and collected the results to find who was strongest in a 3 match free-for-all.
But before I get to results, some caveats:
– Monsters don’t have luck scores. This means I never tested luck, or applied any conditions that required luck tests. Had I done so (and say, used Skill as starting luck), this would have made a small selection of monsters with luck-based attacks more powerful. However were I to implement luck tests, every monster would have likely been more powerful since they could have used luck in combat. I feel the results would have averaged out.
– The following nine monsters were omitted on the basis of their attacks being too unusual or difficult to model: Devlin, Ganjee, Hydra, Living Corpse, Giant Pitcher Plant, Mist Vampire, Poltergeist, Suma and Giant Venus Flytrap
In order, here are the five most powerful creatures in Out Of The Pit:
1) Earth Elemental
It’s not the 18 skill and 22 stamina that gave the Earth Elemental first place; it’s the fact it takes half damage and inflicts double damage. This guy would be virtually impossible for an average player character to defeat!
2) Adult Silver Dragon
Every 3 combat rounds, an Adult Silver Dragon inflicts an additional 4 damage from a breath weapon unless the opponent makes a skill check. Realistically, this results in average per-hit damage of 3.33 from a Silver Dragon, which is murder for most opponents.
3) Adult Gold Dragon
Skill 18, Stamina 40 and half damage from attacks? I expected this guy to take the top spot, and if I had implemented it’s luck-based breath attack it likely would have!
4) Night Demon
The relatively low Skill and Stamina (14,18) of this guy compared to the other top five was not a penalty since he has a once-per-combat special attack that does 2d6 damage and he does 3 points of stamina on a hit!
5) Young Silver Dragon
Like his dad at number 2, his breath weapon was the decider. Even though it isn’t as powerful (2 damage), it’s like a free hit every third round.
Interested in the full rankings? Well here they are:
Name | Skill | Stamina | Win % |
Earth Elemental | 18 | 22 | 99.7% |
Silver Dragon (Adult) | 17 | 30 | 99.5% |
Gold Dragon (Adult) | 18 | 40 | 99.2% |
Night Demon | 14 | 18 | 98.8% |
Silver Dragon (Young) | 15 | 22 | 98.1% |
Gold Dragon (Young) | 16 | 25 | 98.0% |
White Dragon (Adult) | 15 | 22 | 97.7% |
Black Dragon (Adult) | 16 | 30 | 97.2% |
Water Elemental | 16 | 21 | 97.1% |
Green Dragon (Adult) | 15 | 26 | 97.0% |
Snake Demon | 14 | 25 | 96.2% |
Tyrannosaurus Rex (Adult) | 15 | 20 | 95.5% |
Red Dragon (Adult) | 14 | 23 | 95.0% |
Air Elemental | 15 | 20 | 94.8% |
Black Dragon (Young) | 14 | 20 | 94.3% |
Fire Elemental | 14 | 18 | 93.7% |
Earth Demon | 12 | 15 | 93.2% |
Green Dragon (Young) | 13 | 18 | 93.2% |
Manticore | 12 | 18 | 92.2% |
Hell Demon | 14 | 12 | 91.4% |
Brontosaurus (Adult) | 12 | 25 | 91.2% |
Death Spider | 14 | 9 | 91.1% |
Nanka | 12 | 20 | 90.9% |
White Dragon (Young) | 12 | 14 | 90.7% |
Bloodbeast | 12 | 10 | 90.3% |
Styracosaurus (Adult) | 12 | 18 | 89.8% |
Life-Stealer | 12 | 18 | 89.7% |
Genie | 12 | 20 | 89.5% |
Pit Fiend | 12 | 15 | 89.2% |
Giant Sandworm (Adult) | 10 | 20 | 88.5% |
Banshee | 12 | 12 | 88.0% |
Will-O’-The-Wisp | 10 | 6 | 87.7% |
Pegasus | 12 | 12 | 86.9% |
Metal Sentinel | 12 | 12 | 86.0% |
Tyrannosaurus Rex (Young) | 12 | 12 | 85.8% |
Giant Crab (Large) | 10 | 11 | 85.5% |
Horned Demon | 12 | 9 | 84.8% |
Crystal Warrior | 11 | 13 | 84.0% |
Wrapper | 12 | 9 | 83.5% |
Red Dragon (Young) | 11 | 14 | 83.2% |
Slime Sucker | 10 | 9 | 83.2% |
Marsh Giant | 10 | 17 | 82.0% |
Black Lion | 11 | 11 | 81.9% |
Sea Giant | 10 | 17 | 81.9% |
Mammoth (Adult) | 10 | 16 | 81.1% |
Mik | 12 | 7 | 80.3% |
Fire Demon | 10 | 10 | 80% |
Vampire | 10 | 15 | 79.2% |
Gem Sentinel | 11 | 9 | 78.7% |
Storm Giant | 10 | 15 | 78.7% |
Styracosaurus (Young) | 11 | 10 | 78.7% |
Tarator | 8 | 13 | 78.7% |
Plesiosaurus | 9 | 22 | 78.2% |
Strangleweed | 8 | 13 | 77.7% |
Rock Demon | 10 | 13 | 77.4% |
Gretch | 10 | 13 | 76.5% |
Night Stalker | 11 | 8 | 76.0% |
Serpent Queen | 9 | 7 | 76.0% |
Yeti | 10 | 12 | 75.0% |
Mountain Giant | 10 | 12 | 74.8% |
Razorjaw (Adult) | 10 | 12 | 74.6% |
Xoroa Warrior | 10 | 11 | 74.5% |
Caarth (Adult Male) | 10 | 11 | 74.3% |
Saber-Toothed Tiger | 11 | 8 | 73.8% |
Giant Scorpion | 10 | 10 | 73.7% |
Serpent Guard | 10 | 10 | 72.0% |
Wyvern | 10 | 11 | 72.0% |
Cyclops | 10 | 10 | 71.4% |
Frost Giant | 10 | 10 | 71.3% |
Mirror Demon | 10 | 10 | 71.1% |
Centaur (Adult) | 10 | 10 | 70.8% |
Ice Demon | 9 | 11 | 70.4% |
Shapechanger | 10 | 10 | 70.4% |
Clawbeast | 9 | 14 | 70.1% |
Werebear | 9 | 13 | 70% |
Brain Slayer | 10 | 10 | 69.8% |
Dracon | 9 | 14 | 69.1% |
Giant Centipede (Poisonous) | 9 | 7 | 68.5% |
Fetch | 11 | 6 | 68.2% |
Tree Man | 8 | 16 | 68.2% |
Spider Man | 7 | 5 | 67.4% |
Weretiger | 9 | 11 | 66.7% |
Mummy | 9 | 12 | 66.2% |
Nandibear | 9 | 11 | 66.2% |
Sand Devil | 10 | 7 | 66.2% |
Bird Man | 10 | 8 | 65.8% |
Spirit Stalker | 10 | 8 | 65.6% |
Hill Giant | 9 | 11 | 65.5% |
Wight | 9 | 6 | 64.9% |
Wyrm | 9 | 12 | 64.9% |
Brontosaurus (Young) | 8 | 18 | 64.4% |
Mutant Lizard Man | 9 | 9 | 63.5% |
Giant Octopus | 9 | 10 | 63.3% |
Death Dog | 9 | 10 | 63.2% |
Forest Giant | 9 | 9 | 63.2% |
Lizard King | 9 | 10 | 63.2% |
Cave Giant | 9 | 10 | 62.7% |
Cockatrice | 7 | 7 | 62.7% |
Common Troll | 9 | 9 | 62.5% |
Giant Crab (Small) | 7 | 9 | 62.5% |
Hill Troll | 9 | 10 | 62.4% |
Two-Headed Lizard Man | 9 | 10 | 62.4% |
Minotaur | 9 | 9 | 62.3% |
Gargoyle | 9 | 10 | 61.7% |
Mucalytic | 8 | 9 | 61.6% |
Doragar | 9 | 10 | 60.8% |
Baddu-Beetle | 7 | 9 | 59.3% |
Giant Slug | 7 | 15 | 59.3% |
Giant Centipede | 9 | 7 | 58.2% |
Death Wraith | 9 | 8 | 58.1% |
Imitator | 9 | 8 | 58.0% |
Stone Golem | 8 | 11 | 58.0% |
Felinaur (Adult) | 9 | 8 | 57.7% |
Fog Devil | 8 | 6 | 57.2% |
Bhorket | 8 | 11 | 57.1% |
Boulder Beast | 8 | 11 | 57.0% |
Giant Snake | 7 | 11 | 57.0% |
Great Ape | 8 | 11 | 56.9% |
Bear Cub | 9 | 8 | 56.2% |
Calacorm | 9 | 8 | 56.0% |
Tentacled Thing | 8 | 10 | 55.4% |
Sting Worm | 8 | 7 | 54.6% |
Cave Troll | 8 | 9 | 53.5% |
Howl Cat | 8 | 9 | 53.0% |
Sea Troll | 8 | 9 | 53.0% |
Caarth (Adult Female) | 8 | 9 | 52.8% |
Ogre | 8 | 10 | 52.5% |
Werewolf | 8 | 9 | 52.4% |
Leprechaun | 10 | 4 | 52.3% |
Lizardine | 8 | 8 | 51.2% |
Rhino-Man | 8 | 9 | 50.6% |
Skunkbear | 7 | 6 | 49.8% |
Ghoul | 8 | 7 | 49.3% |
Firefox | 7 | 6 | 49.1% |
Crypt Stalker | 8 | 6 | 48.6% |
Flesh Golem | 8 | 7 | 48.3% |
Rock Grub | 7 | 11 | 48.2% |
Giant Lizard (Adult) | 8 | 8 | 47.9% |
Phantom | 12 | 2 | 47.7% |
Ape Man | 8 | 7 | 47.6% |
Flying Guardian | 8 | 8 | 47.6% |
Gark | 7 | 11 | 47.6% |
Snow Wolf | 8 | 8 | 47.5% |
Flying Fish | 8 | 8 | 47.4% |
Giant Eel | 8 | 8 | 47.2% |
Slime Eater | 7 | 11 | 47.2% |
Lizard Man | 8 | 8 | 47.1% |
Giant Toad | 5 | 7 | 46.5% |
Jaguar | 8 | 7 | 45.8% |
Marsh Wraith | 7 | 5 | 44.0% |
Pterodactyl | 7 | 9 | 44.0% |
Champaque | 7 | 10 | 43.9% |
Snattercat | 7 | 9 | 43.3% |
Merman | 7 | 10 | 42.8% |
Giant Sandworm (Young) | 7 | 9 | 42.2% |
Giant Wasp | 6 | 6 | 41.2% |
Mammoth (Young) | 7 | 10 | 41.2% |
Dark Elf | 8 | 6 | 41.1% |
Wererat | 8 | 6 | 40.8% |
Krell | 8 | 5 | 40.3% |
Skeleton Warrior | 8 | 6 | 40.1% |
Giant Eagle | 6 | 11 | 39.3% |
Wood Elf | 8 | 6 | 39.2% |
Wood Golem | 8 | 6 | 38.6% |
Aakor | 7 | 8 | 38.3% |
Man-Orc (Adult) | 8 | 6 | 38.2% |
Giant Aardwolf | 7 | 7 | 38.0% |
Flayer | 6 | 7 | 37.9% |
Cat People | 8 | 6 | 37.7% |
Demon Bat | 7 | 8 | 37.7% |
Neanderthal | 7 | 8 | 37.7% |
Giant Spider | 7 | 8 | 37.2% |
Caveman | 7 | 7 | 37.0% |
Dwarf | 7 | 7 | 36.4% |
Crocodile | 7 | 7 | 36.0% |
Giant Common Fly | 7 | 8 | 35.9% |
Wraith Ape | 7 | 7 | 35.5% |
Hellhound | 7 | 6 | 34.3% |
Shark | 7 | 6 | 33.4% |
Toa-Suo | 6 | 10 | 33.3% |
Harpy | 7 | 6 | 32.3% |
Fiend | 6 | 8 | 32.2% |
Decayer | 7 | 5 | 31.8% |
Hamakei | 7 | 5 | 31.6% |
Fire Sprite | 7 | 4 | 31.2% |
Fish Man | 7 | 6 | 31.2% |
Wolfhound | 7 | 6 | 31.2% |
Messenger Of Death | 7 | 6 | 31.1% |
Goldcrest Eagle | 7 | 6 | 30.9% |
Tangleweed | 7 | 6 | 30.7% |
Wolf Dog | 7 | 6 | 30.7% |
Black Elf | 7 | 6 | 30.6% |
Gnome | 7 | 5 | 30.6% |
Head-Hunter | 7 | 6 | 30.6% |
Great Orc | 7 | 6 | 30.3% |
Mountain Elf | 7 | 6 | 30.3% |
N’yadach | 6 | 8 | 30.1% |
Wolf Dog | 7 | 6 | 30% |
Harrun | 6 | 7 | 29.5% |
Night Hawk | 7 | 5 | 29.3% |
Xoroa Worker | 6 | 7 | 29.3% |
Giant Dragonfly | 8 | 4 | 29.2% |
Sewer Snake | 6 | 7 | 29.2% |
Giant Owl | 6 | 7 | 25.8% |
Wheelie | 6 | 6 | 24.9% |
Stranglebush | 5 | 7 | 24.5% |
Mantis Man | 6 | 5 | 24.0% |
Slykk | 6 | 5 | 23.8% |
Pygmy | 6 | 5 | 23.7% |
Clone Warrior | 6 | 5 | 23.4% |
Giant Needlefly | 6 | 6 | 23.4% |
Common Orc | 6 | 5 | 23.0% |
Zombie | 6 | 6 | 23.0% |
Woodling | 6 | 5 | 22.9% |
Demonspawn | 6 | 6 | 22.8% |
Razorjaw (Young) | 6 | 5 | 22.8% |
Centaur (Young) | 6 | 5 | 22.7% |
Medusa | 6 | 5 | 22.7% |
Hobgoblin | 6 | 6 | 22.5% |
Giant Firefly | 5 | 5 | 22.4% |
Skeleton | 6 | 5 | 22.2% |
Marsh Goblin | 6 | 6 | 21.7% |
Wild Hill Man | 6 | 5 | 21.6% |
Giant Bat | 5 | 8 | 21.2% |
Basilisk | 5 | 8 | 20.4% |
Spit Toad | 5 | 6 | 20% |
Bristle Beast | 5 | 7 | 19.8% |
Skorn | 5 | 5 | 18.0% |
Goblin | 5 | 5 | 16.9% |
Red-Eye | 6 | 4 | 16.9% |
Elvin | 6 | 4 | 16.4% |
Pixie | 5 | 5 | 16.4% |
Snapperfish | 6 | 2 | 16.4% |
Bhorket (Young) | 5 | 5 | 16.1% |
Giant Lizard (Young) | 5 | 5 | 16.0% |
Electric Eel | 6 | 4 | 15.9% |
Gonchong | 5 | 5 | 15.9% |
Rat-Man | 5 | 6 | 15.9% |
Sprite | 5 | 6 | 15.9% |
Kokomokoa | 5 | 5 | 15.6% |
Eye Stinger | 7 | 2 | 15.3% |
Bear Cub | 5 | 6 | 15.0% |
Felinaur (Young) | 5 | 5 | 15.0% |
Leaf-Beast | 6 | 3 | 14.8% |
Mermaid | 4 | 7 | 14.8% |
Chestrap Beast | 5 | 6 | 13.5% |
Vampire Bat | 5 | 4 | 12.8% |
Caarth (Young) | 4 | 5 | 12.3% |
Winged Gremlin | 5 | 4 | 12.3% |
Giant Rat | 5 | 4 | 11.8% |
Iron-Eater | 4 | 5 | 11.8% |
Death Hawk | 4 | 5 | 11.4% |
Troglodyte | 5 | 4 | 10.9% |
Mungie | 5 | 4 | 10.8% |
Mudclaw | 5 | 4 | 10.6% |
Eagle | 4 | 5 | 10.2% |
Blood Eel | 5 | 4 | 10% |
Pirahna | 6 | 1 | 9.38% |
Wild Dog | 4 | 4 | 9.01% |
Grannit | 4 | 3 | 8.27% |
Wingless Gremlin | 4 | 3 | 7.77% |
Marsh Hopper | 4 | 4 | 7.28% |
Common Bat | 4 | 4 | 6.41% |
Man-Orc (Young) | 4 | 3 | 6.41% |
Poisonous Snake | 5 | 2 | 5.55% |
Dripper Plant | 0 | 10 | 3.20% |
Flesh Grub | 1 | 1 | 1.23% |
Giant Leech | 1 | 1 | 1.23% |
Jib-Jib | 1 | 2 | 1.23% |
Sleeping Grass | 0 | 2 | 0.86% |
Clone Worker | 0 | 2 | 0.74% |
Two positions beg elucidation: the Tarator at #52 and Spider Man at 81. Both are unusually highly placed for their skill and stamina scores.
The Tarator, much like the Earth Elemental, does additional damage on a hit (3 total) and takes only 1 per hit received. So it fights like a much more robust creature.
The Spider Man is a terrible foe, for despite having dismal statistics, kills with no saving throw on any successful hit! It’s win ratio therefore is a measure of how often it won an attack roll π
So now, 27 years later, I have finally answered to my satisfaction the ultimate question of what the strongest monster in Out Of The Pit is. Except for that pesky issue of luck…