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Out Of The Pit: Battle Royale

Wednesday, August 22nd, 2012

This is Out Of The Pit, the Fighting Fantasy monster manual:

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It was first published in 1985, and contained the statistics and information on every monster that had appeared in any (non science fiction) Fighting Fantasy book at that time. I loved this book when it came out, and read it avidly cover to cover many times. I would stage mock battles between monsters, in an effort to see who was most powerful.

Back then I had the deluxe large format edition with colour pictures. Alas I no longer have this treasure, but I have two later printings, and still find the book a wonderful and nostalgic read.

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Over the weekend I wrote this piece of code:

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What does it do? Well, it fights 271 of the monsters in Out Of The Pit against each other and saves results. Monster data is input via a data file, which I typed up myself (it took about 2 hours). The code uses the full rules systems including special attacks (examine the code; you can see a large amount of special attacks, defenses and other conditions are included) and saves win-loss results per creature. Every monster fights every other monster once. I ran the code three times and collected the results to find who was strongest in a 3 match free-for-all.

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But before I get to results, some caveats:
– Monsters don’t have luck scores. This means I never tested luck, or applied any conditions that required luck tests. Had I done so (and say, used Skill as starting luck), this would have made a small selection of monsters with luck-based attacks more powerful. However were I to implement luck tests, every monster would have likely been more powerful since they could have used luck in combat. I feel the results would have averaged out.
– The following nine monsters were omitted on the basis of their attacks being too unusual or difficult to model: Devlin, Ganjee, Hydra, Living Corpse, Giant Pitcher Plant, Mist Vampire, Poltergeist, Suma and Giant Venus Flytrap

In order, here are the five most powerful creatures in Out Of The Pit:

1) Earth Elemental
It’s not the 18 skill and 22 stamina that gave the Earth Elemental first place; it’s the fact it takes half damage and inflicts double damage. This guy would be virtually impossible for an average player character to defeat!

2) Adult Silver Dragon
Every 3 combat rounds, an Adult Silver Dragon inflicts an additional 4 damage from a breath weapon unless the opponent makes a skill check. Realistically, this results in average per-hit damage of 3.33 from a Silver Dragon, which is murder for most opponents.

3) Adult Gold Dragon
Skill 18, Stamina 40 and half damage from attacks? I expected this guy to take the top spot, and if I had implemented it’s luck-based breath attack it likely would have!

4) Night Demon
The relatively low Skill and Stamina (14,18) of this guy compared to the other top five was not a penalty since he has a once-per-combat special attack that does 2d6 damage and he does 3 points of stamina on a hit!

5) Young Silver Dragon
Like his dad at number 2, his breath weapon was the decider. Even though it isn’t as powerful (2 damage), it’s like a free hit every third round.

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Interested in the full rankings? Well here they are:

Name Skill Stamina Win %
Earth Elemental 18 22 99.7%
Silver Dragon (Adult) 17 30 99.5%
Gold Dragon (Adult) 18 40 99.2%
Night Demon 14 18 98.8%
Silver Dragon (Young) 15 22 98.1%
Gold Dragon (Young) 16 25 98.0%
White Dragon (Adult) 15 22 97.7%
Black Dragon (Adult) 16 30 97.2%
Water Elemental 16 21 97.1%
Green Dragon (Adult) 15 26 97.0%
Snake Demon 14 25 96.2%
Tyrannosaurus Rex (Adult) 15 20 95.5%
Red Dragon (Adult) 14 23 95.0%
Air Elemental 15 20 94.8%
Black Dragon (Young) 14 20 94.3%
Fire Elemental 14 18 93.7%
Earth Demon 12 15 93.2%
Green Dragon (Young) 13 18 93.2%
Manticore 12 18 92.2%
Hell Demon 14 12 91.4%
Brontosaurus (Adult) 12 25 91.2%
Death Spider 14 9 91.1%
Nanka 12 20 90.9%
White Dragon (Young) 12 14 90.7%
Bloodbeast 12 10 90.3%
Styracosaurus (Adult) 12 18 89.8%
Life-Stealer 12 18 89.7%
Genie 12 20 89.5%
Pit Fiend 12 15 89.2%
Giant Sandworm (Adult) 10 20 88.5%
Banshee 12 12 88.0%
Will-O’-The-Wisp 10 6 87.7%
Pegasus 12 12 86.9%
Metal Sentinel 12 12 86.0%
Tyrannosaurus Rex (Young) 12 12 85.8%
Giant Crab (Large) 10 11 85.5%
Horned Demon 12 9 84.8%
Crystal Warrior 11 13 84.0%
Wrapper 12 9 83.5%
Red Dragon (Young) 11 14 83.2%
Slime Sucker 10 9 83.2%
Marsh Giant 10 17 82.0%
Black Lion 11 11 81.9%
Sea Giant 10 17 81.9%
Mammoth (Adult) 10 16 81.1%
Mik 12 7 80.3%
Fire Demon 10 10 80%
Vampire 10 15 79.2%
Gem Sentinel 11 9 78.7%
Storm Giant 10 15 78.7%
Styracosaurus (Young) 11 10 78.7%
Tarator 8 13 78.7%
Plesiosaurus 9 22 78.2%
Strangleweed 8 13 77.7%
Rock Demon 10 13 77.4%
Gretch 10 13 76.5%
Night Stalker 11 8 76.0%
Serpent Queen 9 7 76.0%
Yeti 10 12 75.0%
Mountain Giant 10 12 74.8%
Razorjaw (Adult) 10 12 74.6%
Xoroa Warrior 10 11 74.5%
Caarth (Adult Male) 10 11 74.3%
Saber-Toothed Tiger 11 8 73.8%
Giant Scorpion 10 10 73.7%
Serpent Guard 10 10 72.0%
Wyvern 10 11 72.0%
Cyclops 10 10 71.4%
Frost Giant 10 10 71.3%
Mirror Demon 10 10 71.1%
Centaur (Adult) 10 10 70.8%
Ice Demon 9 11 70.4%
Shapechanger 10 10 70.4%
Clawbeast 9 14 70.1%
Werebear 9 13 70%
Brain Slayer 10 10 69.8%
Dracon 9 14 69.1%
Giant Centipede (Poisonous) 9 7 68.5%
Fetch 11 6 68.2%
Tree Man 8 16 68.2%
Spider Man 7 5 67.4%
Weretiger 9 11 66.7%
Mummy 9 12 66.2%
Nandibear 9 11 66.2%
Sand Devil 10 7 66.2%
Bird Man 10 8 65.8%
Spirit Stalker 10 8 65.6%
Hill Giant 9 11 65.5%
Wight 9 6 64.9%
Wyrm 9 12 64.9%
Brontosaurus (Young) 8 18 64.4%
Mutant Lizard Man 9 9 63.5%
Giant Octopus 9 10 63.3%
Death Dog 9 10 63.2%
Forest Giant 9 9 63.2%
Lizard King 9 10 63.2%
Cave Giant 9 10 62.7%
Cockatrice 7 7 62.7%
Common Troll 9 9 62.5%
Giant Crab (Small) 7 9 62.5%
Hill Troll 9 10 62.4%
Two-Headed Lizard Man 9 10 62.4%
Minotaur 9 9 62.3%
Gargoyle 9 10 61.7%
Mucalytic 8 9 61.6%
Doragar 9 10 60.8%
Baddu-Beetle 7 9 59.3%
Giant Slug 7 15 59.3%
Giant Centipede 9 7 58.2%
Death Wraith 9 8 58.1%
Imitator 9 8 58.0%
Stone Golem 8 11 58.0%
Felinaur (Adult) 9 8 57.7%
Fog Devil 8 6 57.2%
Bhorket 8 11 57.1%
Boulder Beast 8 11 57.0%
Giant Snake 7 11 57.0%
Great Ape 8 11 56.9%
Bear Cub 9 8 56.2%
Calacorm 9 8 56.0%
Tentacled Thing 8 10 55.4%
Sting Worm 8 7 54.6%
Cave Troll 8 9 53.5%
Howl Cat 8 9 53.0%
Sea Troll 8 9 53.0%
Caarth (Adult Female) 8 9 52.8%
Ogre 8 10 52.5%
Werewolf 8 9 52.4%
Leprechaun 10 4 52.3%
Lizardine 8 8 51.2%
Rhino-Man 8 9 50.6%
Skunkbear 7 6 49.8%
Ghoul 8 7 49.3%
Firefox 7 6 49.1%
Crypt Stalker 8 6 48.6%
Flesh Golem 8 7 48.3%
Rock Grub 7 11 48.2%
Giant Lizard (Adult) 8 8 47.9%
Phantom 12 2 47.7%
Ape Man 8 7 47.6%
Flying Guardian 8 8 47.6%
Gark 7 11 47.6%
Snow Wolf 8 8 47.5%
Flying Fish 8 8 47.4%
Giant Eel 8 8 47.2%
Slime Eater 7 11 47.2%
Lizard Man 8 8 47.1%
Giant Toad 5 7 46.5%
Jaguar 8 7 45.8%
Marsh Wraith 7 5 44.0%
Pterodactyl 7 9 44.0%
Champaque 7 10 43.9%
Snattercat 7 9 43.3%
Merman 7 10 42.8%
Giant Sandworm (Young) 7 9 42.2%
Giant Wasp 6 6 41.2%
Mammoth (Young) 7 10 41.2%
Dark Elf 8 6 41.1%
Wererat 8 6 40.8%
Krell 8 5 40.3%
Skeleton Warrior 8 6 40.1%
Giant Eagle 6 11 39.3%
Wood Elf 8 6 39.2%
Wood Golem 8 6 38.6%
Aakor 7 8 38.3%
Man-Orc (Adult) 8 6 38.2%
Giant Aardwolf 7 7 38.0%
Flayer 6 7 37.9%
Cat People 8 6 37.7%
Demon Bat 7 8 37.7%
Neanderthal 7 8 37.7%
Giant Spider 7 8 37.2%
Caveman 7 7 37.0%
Dwarf 7 7 36.4%
Crocodile 7 7 36.0%
Giant Common Fly 7 8 35.9%
Wraith Ape 7 7 35.5%
Hellhound 7 6 34.3%
Shark 7 6 33.4%
Toa-Suo 6 10 33.3%
Harpy 7 6 32.3%
Fiend 6 8 32.2%
Decayer 7 5 31.8%
Hamakei 7 5 31.6%
Fire Sprite 7 4 31.2%
Fish Man 7 6 31.2%
Wolfhound 7 6 31.2%
Messenger Of Death 7 6 31.1%
Goldcrest Eagle 7 6 30.9%
Tangleweed 7 6 30.7%
Wolf Dog 7 6 30.7%
Black Elf 7 6 30.6%
Gnome 7 5 30.6%
Head-Hunter 7 6 30.6%
Great Orc 7 6 30.3%
Mountain Elf 7 6 30.3%
N’yadach 6 8 30.1%
Wolf Dog 7 6 30%
Harrun 6 7 29.5%
Night Hawk 7 5 29.3%
Xoroa Worker 6 7 29.3%
Giant Dragonfly 8 4 29.2%
Sewer Snake 6 7 29.2%
Giant Owl 6 7 25.8%
Wheelie 6 6 24.9%
Stranglebush 5 7 24.5%
Mantis Man 6 5 24.0%
Slykk 6 5 23.8%
Pygmy 6 5 23.7%
Clone Warrior 6 5 23.4%
Giant Needlefly 6 6 23.4%
Common Orc 6 5 23.0%
Zombie 6 6 23.0%
Woodling 6 5 22.9%
Demonspawn 6 6 22.8%
Razorjaw (Young) 6 5 22.8%
Centaur (Young) 6 5 22.7%
Medusa 6 5 22.7%
Hobgoblin 6 6 22.5%
Giant Firefly 5 5 22.4%
Skeleton 6 5 22.2%
Marsh Goblin 6 6 21.7%
Wild Hill Man 6 5 21.6%
Giant Bat 5 8 21.2%
Basilisk 5 8 20.4%
Spit Toad 5 6 20%
Bristle Beast 5 7 19.8%
Skorn 5 5 18.0%
Goblin 5 5 16.9%
Red-Eye 6 4 16.9%
Elvin 6 4 16.4%
Pixie 5 5 16.4%
Snapperfish 6 2 16.4%
Bhorket (Young) 5 5 16.1%
Giant Lizard (Young) 5 5 16.0%
Electric Eel 6 4 15.9%
Gonchong 5 5 15.9%
Rat-Man 5 6 15.9%
Sprite 5 6 15.9%
Kokomokoa 5 5 15.6%
Eye Stinger 7 2 15.3%
Bear Cub 5 6 15.0%
Felinaur (Young) 5 5 15.0%
Leaf-Beast 6 3 14.8%
Mermaid 4 7 14.8%
Chestrap Beast 5 6 13.5%
Vampire Bat 5 4 12.8%
Caarth (Young) 4 5 12.3%
Winged Gremlin 5 4 12.3%
Giant Rat 5 4 11.8%
Iron-Eater 4 5 11.8%
Death Hawk 4 5 11.4%
Troglodyte 5 4 10.9%
Mungie 5 4 10.8%
Mudclaw 5 4 10.6%
Eagle 4 5 10.2%
Blood Eel 5 4 10%
Pirahna 6 1 9.38%
Wild Dog 4 4 9.01%
Grannit 4 3 8.27%
Wingless Gremlin 4 3 7.77%
Marsh Hopper 4 4 7.28%
Common Bat 4 4 6.41%
Man-Orc (Young) 4 3 6.41%
Poisonous Snake 5 2 5.55%
Dripper Plant 0 10 3.20%
Flesh Grub 1 1 1.23%
Giant Leech 1 1 1.23%
Jib-Jib 1 2 1.23%
Sleeping Grass 0 2 0.86%
Clone Worker 0 2 0.74%

Two positions beg elucidation: the Tarator at #52 and Spider Man at 81. Both are unusually highly placed for their skill and stamina scores.

The Tarator, much like the Earth Elemental, does additional damage on a hit (3 total) and takes only 1 per hit received. So it fights like a much more robust creature.

The Spider Man is a terrible foe, for despite having dismal statistics, kills with no saving throw on any successful hit! It’s win ratio therefore is a measure of how often it won an attack roll πŸ™‚

So now, 27 years later, I have finally answered to my satisfaction the ultimate question of what the strongest monster in Out Of The Pit is. Except for that pesky issue of luck…

Very Dearly Departed

Tuesday, August 14th, 2012

I’ve always lived in homes with cats, ever since (and long before) I can remember, including in New Guinea.

Growing up in Australia we had a long line of cats, all of whom were outdoor. Their names will never be forgotten: Louis, Chookhead, Boris, Sarah 1, Sarah 2, Nelson, Momus. These cats were an important part of my life, and I loved them dearly. However most of them they existed only as dim memories for me, until now.

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That’s Louis. He was the first cat I remember, and lived until I was in my mid-late teens. He was a massive and friendly fellow, equally happy outside or in. As the friend of two boys through their growing years, Louis put up with an awful lot, but he was always good natured about it and always came back for a hug even after we’d teased or tormented him too much! If I recall correctly, as with many of the cats pictured here, Louis ultimately lost a fight with skin cancer. I can remember vividly his final trip to the vet, even though it was probably over 25 years ago.

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We think this is our only photo of Chookhead, ‘my’ first cat (for some reason, I think of him as mine), who we had for a short time around when I was about 10. I remember Chookhead used to get under the covers with me at night and fall asleep, even when he was full grown. Sadly, I don’t remember much more about him, or his eventual fate πŸ™

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That’s Boris, happy as she always was in the sun. Boris was aloof and mysterious, and as I recall spent the vast majority of her time outdoors. A fond memory was the time she almost passed out on our hot tile roof and I had to climb up to ‘save’ her (she was probably amused by the fact I thought she was even in trouble). Like her brother Louis, Boris also succumbed to skin cancer, the evidence of which is visible in some of these photos (look at her ear tips).

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And this is Nelson. He’s a charmer isn’t he? I loved this cat so much, since he was a replacement for one that had died. He used to sleep on my bed when I played C64 games in my bedroom. Sadly Nelson’s life was cut short far too early. I’ll remember him warmly forever πŸ™‚

Four Non-Blondes

Tuesday, August 14th, 2012

In an old and dusty album I found some old and dusty polaroids. These date to 12 years ago, when I visited Australia and stayed with Bernard and Adam who were at the time living in the same apartment (that Adam still lives in) in Randwick. I was a bit different then…

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I can assure you…

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that at the time…

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I thought it looked great πŸ™‚

Another polaroid confirms that I wasn’t the only one swayed by the light side:

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Sorry Adam πŸ™‚

Pictures From Yesteryear

Sunday, August 12th, 2012

These past few days Bernard’s been scanning in some old photos. Here are a selection, in approximate chronological order…

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Mum and Dad in 197X. I’m guessing Dad’s goal on that day was to look as much like Grinderman-era Nick Cave as he possibly good, and he succeeds well. A beautiful photo of our parents!

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Taken at our home at the time, a flat in Jamieson street in Gateshead. Obviously that day our family had plans to either go for an alpine hike or spend the afternoon at a Bavarian beer festival. I appear female πŸ™‚

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Part of an audition for an ad campaign for a popular brand of soda. Ultimately we were not chosen. One of the selector’s comments said “The youngest child has a suspiciously large head”.

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Here we are riding a horse, with dad watching. This would have been before 1975. The horses name was ‘Horsehorse’ according to my brother, but I seem to recall calling him ‘Hecatonchires’.

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Probably about 1978 or 1979. In those days school photos would also include brothers and sisters, if they went to the same school. I’ve got no jokes with regards to this shot; I actually think it’s pretty good. At that time Dad was still cutting our hair πŸ™‚

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In Canberra in the late 1970s. This remains the only time my brother has ever seen snow, and was (obviously) the first and only time before I came to the USA. My shoes look gargantuan, and I’m using them to ski-without-ski’s. Even then I was an exceptional athlete.

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Back in the 1980s yellow was my favourite colour. Given a choice, it was always yellow for me, including a yellow Sharp tape deck. In time this love of yellow worked it’s way into my clothes, and the above shot is perhaps the quintessential example. This was taken at my Dad’s 50th birthday in 1985, and is representative of what I chose to wear when told to ‘dress up’. Have you ever seen a yellower 13 year old?

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Unquestionably the worst family photo ever taken. So bad in fact, that it is sublime in it’s beauty. There’s just so much that jumps out and punches the viewer in the face:
– My coat (which was woolen, and which I once wore to a school dance)
– My hair & glasses (I’m surprised I wasn’t instantly punched in the face every day when I got to school)
– Bernard’s tie & faux tweed coat
– Mum’s shirt & hair (she looks like the lead singer of REO Speedwagon)
– The composition (dad’s head is growing out of mine and he looks hydrocephalic)
And I could go on. This abysmal shot was taken in the late 1980s.

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Taken in 1992 by KLS when she visited Australia before we were married. Bernard is holding our then-cat Momus. We look like a homeless family. Even though I was quite skinny then I look tubby, and Bernard’s hair is a sight to behold. It’s a funny shot indeed, and I have good memories from that time so I like it πŸ™‚

Do you like this post? I have other photos I may blog, including a few from my first trip back in 2000 and some of our cats back in the days I was growing up.

Ten Treasures

Wednesday, August 1st, 2012

A few times on this blog, I’ve referred to my ‘boxes of fun’ (BoF’s). These are plastic storage containers hidden away in cupboards containing stuff I have collected over the years. The name is a misnomer, since these boxes give me no fun at all. In fact they are ‘out of sight, out of mind’ as they say.

Yesterday I emptied one out for the fun of it. This particular box contains Star Wars ‘stuff’, accumulated over about the last 15 years. Here’s a photo of the box immediately after I removed the cover:

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Stuffed in there, isn’t it? Most of my boxes contain Star Wars stuff – in fact about half of them contain just action figures. But this one is unique in that it contains a motley collection of toys, licensed merchandise and advertising ephemera. Basically anything remotely Star Wars related went in here, whenever I bought it, and did not see the light of day again until yesterday.

Today on the blog I present ten treasured items I found yesterday in my box of fun πŸ™‚

1. Han Solo & Chewbacca ‘cake topper’

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KLS purchased the above many years ago in the clearance bin at our local grocery store. It’s not edible (!), but is designed to be an ornament on a SW themed cake. I also have another pair (Anakin & Watto). As far as SW ‘action figures’ go, this is one of my most unusual. [Approximate Ebay value: $6]

2. Star Wars Bowl

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This is one of a set of 4 items (2 bowls, 2 cups), all of which I own. This was part of a General Mill’s mail-in redemption for Episode 2, and as far as melamine SW bowls are concerned is the cream of the crop. And I say this with some expertise, since our cupboards at home contain about 5 SW-themed bowls and plates already. The guy pictured here (and his friends) have never been used though, and will forever live out their lives in the BoF. I particularly like this one, since the image of Padme used on it is uncommon, and I’ve not seen it used on merchandise before. [Ebay value for set of 4: $40]

3. Episode 1 ‘pogs’

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Around the time Episode 1 was released, Pepsico restaurants (namely Taco Bell, KFC and Pizza Hut) in the US had a incredible amount of promotions, including toys, ‘cup-toppers’ and these little pogs that came randomly in kids meals. As you can see, in an effort to collect the toys I accumulated a lot of the pogs! These are in perfect condition, stored in a little plastic container. I reckon there is about 50 or so here, and I know I have more elsewhere. In fact it’s even possible the ones shown here are my doubles, and I have a full set tucked away in another BoF. [Approximate Ebay value: $5-20+]

4. McDonalds ‘Clone Wars’ kids meal box

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The less said of the above item the better. Yes it’s a mint-condition kids meal box, folded flat for storage. It’s from 2010. I’m lovin’ it! [Approximate Ebay value: $3]

5. R2-D2 Gigapet

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Yes, this is an R2-D2 ‘tamagotchi’ type toy. As you can see I have never opened it, so I can’t comment on how it works. I can also confirm that I never will open it, so I will never comment on how it works. But it keeps my heart warm knowing it’s just sitting there in my BoF! [Ebay value: $10]

6. Japanese General Grievous Pepsi bottle cap figure

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Over in Japan, they occasionally promote bottles of drink via cap toppers like the one seen here. They are little figurines that sit on top of the cap of the drink. Sometimes you can see them just sitting there in the cooler, sometimes (as in the above) they come in a bag and have to be put on. During our last Japan trip this promotion was ending, and I was only able to find one figure. [Ebay value: $3]

7. Japanese mini Episode 1 action figures

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These were from a gatchapon machine. If I recall correctly, they were found at an unlikely place – a machine on a walkway leading from one train station to another near Shibuya in Tokyo. I didn’t have a lot of Y100 coins with me at the time, and could only get two from the machine. My other one is Anakin & Watto (yes, the same pair as my other cake topper!). This is a very cool item, and the figured are surprisingly detailed for their miniature size. [Approximate ebay value: $6]

8. Lenticular Anakin/Darth Vader plate

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Another promotional item; this was obtained by mailing in tokens from cereal boxes around the release of Episode 3. The plate is dreadful – weak plastic with a lenticular glued onto the front. I daresay it’s barely washable! But, as with all these treasures, I love it like a child and it’s not ever for sale! It shall rest eternally, happily, in the BoF. Sealed in it’s plastic πŸ˜‰Β  [Ebay value: $15]

9. Episode 1 wall stickers

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A quick search for this item online revealed that the company released a staggering variety of Episode 1 themed wall adhesives! This podrace collection is a relatively recent aquisition, purchased as it was from the budget bin of a dollar store only a year or so ago. It’s yellowing and aged and cursed to an existence of never ever being stuck on a wall. But I love it because it’s flat and easy to store! I seem to recall I actually purchased two of these, so I deeply apologize to whomever got the other one is probably quite happy with their gift!Β  [Ebay value: $3]

10. Frito-Lay Episode II 3D puzzle pieces

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These are real treasures. They are 3D puzzle pieces that were notoriously hard to obtain back when Episode 2 came out. Although a Frito-Lay promotional item, they were only available at retail by purchasing a massive box of snack sized chip packs. Even then the promotional boxes were few and far between, so I was only able to get 2 pieces. Some searching online reveals there were at least 54 (!) different pieces (in 6 colours), and they were sometimes distributed in sets of nine. I wonder how one got a set? Anyway I love them for a specific reason – they are actually lithopanes! Here’s a photo showing the nice effect then they are held up to a light:

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Very effective aren’t they? I wish I could have gotten more now. Maybe I’ll try harder next time I’m in 2002. [Ebay value: $10]

Before I end, one last photo. The box contained oodles of stuff (you can see other items in the backgrounds of some of the above photos) but perhaps the most nostalgic were these:

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Pictured are my ticket stubs for (one of the many times I saw) Phantom Menace, Attack Of The Clones and the cinematic rerelease of Star Wars back in 1997 ($4.50 for a matinee!!). Note that there are three tickets for Attack Of The Clones on the same day. That’s because I saw the midnight screening myself, and then later in the day went back with KLS πŸ˜‰